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Post by Faerith on May 8, 2006 22:23:58 GMT 12
Basically dragons are reptillian creatures which range from 3' to 100' have legs and arms plus a pair of wings and scales.
feel free to elaborate.
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Post by arialth on May 10, 2006 6:09:08 GMT 12
Dragons are not really limited to either the reptilian form, or 3' - 100', honestly. There are plenty of Otherkin out ther who are furry dragons, not scalies. And some dragons are warm-blooded, unlike reptiles. There are plenty of types of dragons: <dl> <dt>Western (European style) <dd>Your typical dragon. Four legs, two wings. Tend to be scaly, but not always. <dt>Western (Wyvvern) <dd>Not so common. Two hind legs, two wings. <dt>Eastern (Chinese style) <dd>The long, lithe Chinese ones. Four legs, no wings. </dl> This is simply a small list. There are plenty more, but I think I'll leave more description for other people. Or maybe I'll post later. If you have any deep questions, use this site: <a href="http://sommerland.org/ondragons/races/races_european2.html#NET">Sommerland</a> |
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Post by arialth on May 10, 2006 6:09:45 GMT 12
Aw, crap. Sorry bout that. I had no clue HTML was disabled!!!!!!!!! AHHH!!
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Post by Faerith on May 10, 2006 6:15:02 GMT 12
ahhh it's ok
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Post by Fury on May 27, 2006 13:37:45 GMT 12
Summerland is a good info site.I´ve learned a lot here.
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Post by Hacylon on Jun 19, 2006 17:17:56 GMT 12
*pokes fae* Im black furry dragon (warm blooded) so meh to you  |
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Post by Faerith on Jun 20, 2006 16:07:51 GMT 12
Well excuse me but i didn't take any non- major dragon groups into concideration
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Post by Hacylon on Jun 20, 2006 16:22:37 GMT 12
*pokes fae 5 times*
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Post by Faerith on Jun 20, 2006 16:34:21 GMT 12
*locks hac in a antiproton cage* now that's sorted out.. back to subject
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Post by Taezil on Aug 30, 2006 22:38:48 GMT 12
hmmm.... i believe that dragons have no true description due to the fact there are so many variations that you cannot find the true orignal type of dragon
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Post by Faerith on Sept 1, 2006 23:37:56 GMT 12
Good point there. There are many different types. What you specifically call a dragon may not be what somebody else thinks as one.
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Post by Wierd Boy Tygy on Feb 23, 2008 3:05:21 GMT 12
Okie dokie. I have a nice set of paragraphs stating some of the history of both real and supposed fantasy dragons some too. You have to pardon any references which may seem a bit too religious, but some of the wordings that have gotten us to the term 'dragon' are mixed up in some of that. Also, its just part of another work of mine that I did up to defend against some of the more religious type nuts and throw some fact into their face as far as whats been written and researched and placed more together by other folks. ; p Anyways, I think it goes a little deeper than just the general apearance, but it is intersting reading that alot of people just don't know about ; p SO, here it all is heh....
The dragon has been used as a symbol of prosperity and luck in some cultures and are generally considered powerful in mind and spirit. This can be seen in stories, as well as some of the real life situations having to do with them. Their physical abilities are highly impressive, and many are invulnerable to ordinary weapons, again atleast in the books. A dragon is sometimes said to be the perfect creature, in a sense an ultimate being, a god... It has an astounding appearance, large wings, colorful scales, sharp claws, and atleast in books, a deadly breath. According to history though, a dragon can be an ancient spiritual force, something outside the material world. It can be a man who attains spiritual knowledge and power, such as a priest with the power to heal. There is also a mythical meaning of what a dragon is, which makes them into enlightened, reptilian-like creatures that typically have wings. Lastly, there are lizards on the earth which people sometimes refer to as dragons.
To get started, the actual word dragon came from the Greek word drikanna, which means three-fold watcher, a watcher being an daemon (a guide/messenger/angel) sent to instruct mankind in righteousness. Before that, they were known as seraphim, meaning firey serpent, and before that they were known as siri, which simply means serpent. The word dragon itself means large serpent. It has been labeled by some cultures as a fallen angel, a universal mind, a lord of wisdom, a guardian of the gates between heaven and hell, a guide to immortality, and a creator of the universe. In the book of Enoch, which came before Genesis in the bible, they were archangels which later became fallen angels at the time of their supposed descent from Mount Hermon.
Now, a dragon as an ancient force however, would be something like a leader who swayed the thoughts and power of a nation and led them to prosperity, victory over others, etc. One specific type to use as a reference here would be the Egyptians. Their pharohs were often annointed in crocodile fat to become a messeh, which means crocodile god. That word was later changed to Messiah by the Hebrews, which meant dragon, and they used the dragon type illustrations rather than any necessarily that the Egyptians had come up with for their term, crocodile god. An example of the use of this word now formed by the Hebrews would be the man, Jesus, who during the time they had basically stolen the word, was not in the world yet and had not been named specificaly other than Messiah. Anyway, he was their king of spiritual forces who would lead and govern his followers of God, and on top of that he would go off into a new life and show the them the way to a life even after death. Moving on, we extend this out more in order to show man as a dragon.
Man as a dragon, metaphorically speaking, would be someone having high spiritual knowledge. Again, Jesus is a very good example. According to the things that a dragon has been labeled, Jesus was all except for a fallen angel. Jesus was God. God is said to be in the hearts of minds of all, so therefore Jesus was a universal mind. God knows all the wisdom of everything, therefore Jesus was also a lord of wisdom. God created Heaven and Hell, so Jesus was a guardian of the gates in a sense, although he suposedly has another tending to the gates for him. God's form of Jesus allowed him to teach of immortality and acceptance into eternity as well as bring the ability to existence to all, which therefore made him a guide to immortality as well. Finally God is the creator of the universe, which makes Jesus the creator as well, and if one uses the word messiah as the word representing Jesus, and Jesus is God, and God created the universe, then you now have the dragon as the creator of the universe, which is something that some myths have suggested, so now you know it is true. Also, since we have now proved this, and people are all the creation of God, and we are said to be created in the image of God, that must mean that every person has a little bit of this messiah, this dragon in them. So in this case we are all dragon children in the symbolic since, therefore again providing an example as man as a dragon, as well as dragon as spirit. Whether or not it is awakened is a different story.
Moving on, dragons, as in the typical style of what you might find in fantasy books and even moreso to a realistic idea of any existing dragons now since we've proved what we have in the past two previous paragraphs, are said to be very good, very spiritual, and powerful. They typically either consists of an elongated body with a tail to match, or if speaking of a so-called western dragon, a body more like that of a man mixed with reptilian, slight mammal, and generally have four legs, a tail, and two wings. Their tale goes as far back as Sumerian beliefs. They started out being called siri, meaning serpent. That was later taken down the line by the Hebrews and made into a word that meant firey serpent. That word was later taken and changed a little bit, but still having some reference to the Hebrew word as well as back to the Sumerian word. The new form was seraphim, which this word and all before it stood for a type of angel that God (creator dragon) had guarding the throne of heaven. The Greeks later took the word and made a new one, drikanna, which was then even in later days transformed into the word dragon, which has recieved negativity in the overall world since the change from Hebrew to Greek. All in all, it is probably safe to say that the seraphim were large firey serpent-like creatures, dragons.
Now we are at the earthly type dragons, the type people have given that name to, although the creature's actual name is different. They are mainly termed dragons by many people because of their size. The types are, Komodo, a middle unknown, and then another called megalania prisca. The Komodo dragon is also known as a monitor lizard. They are found mainly on the island of Komodo. Komodo Island is near one of the eastern countries like China and Japan. The Komodo can grow up to 3 meters, or 10 ft, in length. They eat a wide variety of animals including some that are much larger than themselves. There have been reports of them attacking/kiling people before. There have not been too many of those reported though. The next type of earthly dragon I do not remember the name to unfortunately. It is a species very similar to the Komodo. The one main difference between it and the Komodo is that it can grow up to be just slightly larger than the Komodo. The third type is called megalania prisca. It is an even larger and older relative of the previous two. It is/was able to reach lengths of 25-30 feet. It is currently thought to be extinct, although there have been stories of sightings in Australia. It is a lizard that would be large enough to ride if a person were to ever try and tame such a creature. It, like all of the smaller lizards named as dragons on this earth, do not have fire breath nor wings.
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Post by Faerith on Feb 23, 2008 11:19:35 GMT 12
So conclusivly speaking a dragon could be someone great in soul, a class of worldly reptilians, something from myth, or your typical dragon form creature.
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Post by tygitramus on Feb 23, 2008 22:27:12 GMT 12
That is correct sir!  it depends on actual history of realism, fantasy, religion, etc.... whatever. either way, logic can be put behind each one to gather the concept of dragon, so technically, everything living is dragon to some degree if not full |
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Post by gaydragon on Feb 29, 2008 4:56:22 GMT 12
There are dragons like the ones i come one can have live kids instead of eggs.
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it depends on actual history of realism, fantasy, religion, etc.... whatever. either way, logic can be put behind each one to gather the concept of dragon, so technically, everything living is dragon to some degree if not full